Correct Contact In The Stretch
Today we are going to try to answer a question from one of our friends in Denmark who has written to us saying when she tries to stretch her horse she goes on a loose rein, and in her particular case, the horse stops moving and seems to fall apart. So what we are going to try and answer is the correct contact.
The correct contact in the stretch is contact, the weight of the rein, it is not a loose rein (this is one of the biggest misconceptions about the stretch). The horse should be just as much on the bridle in the stretch as it is when up in the working trot, as we see Karen doing here in the video. She is going to stretch the horse correctly first and we are going to watch the horse stretch down and see how she maintains contact with the horse all the way down with no change of rhythm in the horse. She stretches even deeper now and the horse stretches out and forward. Notice how she has not lost contact, the weight of the rein has stayed the same throughout with no loose rein. Now she brings the horse back up to a working trot, see how nicely the horse comes back up? It is just the weight of the rein when the horse is correct (for a moment you might have a little pressure against your hands). But when the horse is correct it should be just the weight of the rein, that’s how the horse knows it is doing the right thing.
Now she will do an incorrect stretch and simply let the horse go. She lets the reins go and look what happens, the trot immediately fell apart, did you see that? It became irregular and the horse kind of poked his nose out (this is the kind of stretch we see in the horse shows most of the time). Now that she has become irregular, she can’t maintain the contact and thus can’t maintain the rhythm of the horse.
Now we are going to ask her to bring her back to the working trot again and we will show you another correct stretch. She engages the horse using her legs (this is another point we are going to talk about in the next blog which is the correct use of the leg and the third thing the leg does, which is missing from most people’s repetoire. That is the leg should be able to ask the horse to engage it’s back upwards, not just to go either forwards or laterally, it has to mean to lift the back as well. So that is another meaning the horse needs to learn about the leg). Now she is going to stretch the horse correctly in the contact and we will see how little change there is in the horse as she stretches the horse down. Because she maintains contact, the horse maintains balance and stays exactly even and rhythmic. She got a little loose at the end there, so she gets her back into the stretch and in contact. She has nice rhythm and the back end is still coming through. Then she brings the horse back into the working trot again maintaining rhythm, very nice! Look how smoothly she comes back. We will show you both ways again.
So first we are going to do another bad one, watch what happens when she lets go of the reins. The horse just falls apart and falls on the forehand. All of a sudden she even hallows her back for a moment, the trot becomes a little irregular and we no longer have that smooth consistent stride that we had with the contact. Taking that contact back up again Karen develops the working trot again, and just so you can see how this works again we are going to go all the way up into the collected trot this time. A horse at this level, an FEI horse, should still have working gates. Just because your horse collects doesn’t mean it shouldn’t have a working trot. We can’t always go in collection (another misconception of Dressage today, is we expect horses to stay in collection for hours on end, this is what is destroying them). So now she will sit to the trot and bring the horse up into collection. Very nice, look how this horse begins to spring. This is a horse that has no natural ability to spring at all, but look when we collect her correctly after correct back developement she is capable of some suspension. She goes from that into a correct stretch again, notice how the tension on the reins has not increased at all. She sits to the trot this time, maintaining the contact, the unbroken line to the mouth of the horse. As she gets her to stretch through, she may need to rise a little bit and there she goes. Look how even the horse looks over it’s back and how round the horse is from the pole all the way to the dock of the tail. That’s what we are looking for and the rhythm hasn’t changed between the collected trot through the working trot and all the way into the stretch. It’s exactly the same all the way through except we lost some suspension. Now we bring her back up one more time to the working trot.
So the key here folks is stretching is not done on a loose rein, the horse is just as much in the bridle when it is stretching as it is when in the collected trot, very nice! One more time Karen demonstrates an incorrect stretch from the collection, she just drops the reins, and the horse just falls apart. The back end just stopped moving practically when the reins were let go. Now back to a working trot for a correct stretch. Watch how the horse lengthens and Karen maintains contact going to collection first, then the rising trot, through the working trot (letting the suspension dissipate a little bit and letting the horse get a little flatter) and then she lets the horse stretch all the way down into the contact. Notice the unbroken line from the horse’s mouth to her hands, that is what we are looking for, not a loose rein. So hope that helps with your question, and we will see you next time! Thanks so much!
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Hello,
I just wanted to say thank you for this info. I have looked and looked for a coach who understands these concepts to no avail. I love my horse and don’t want to be taught to crank her head in as a method to getting a correct frame, but unfortunately this is all any coach has ever offered me. It’s also mainly all I see at dressage days, so it is very hard to learn. I was actually at the point of giving up until I found this website. Problem is I live in Australia. Will you be putting out some DVD’s or doing online lessons. Please?
YAY! Thanks guys – and so quick after I asked the question! THAT is superb “customer service”! :o)
This really helped me understand how to do the stretch correct – cannot wait to try it!
Thanks again!
Yippee I am so glad to have found these videos…can you tell me when you might have videos on using your legs like you spoke of in this video?
I absolutely looooved this video!!
Dear Will and Karen
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in this way. The videos are
It is nice to know I’m on the right track with my training. I want my horse to be happy sound and healthy for a long time.
I have been fortunate having some wonderful teachers in the horses I have ridden, and a few great human ones too.
My goal is to be a dream rider for any horse I ride. So I have done a lot of reading and research- most importantly working on myself as a rider. I have found the classical training to be the best and the horses really appreciate it. My first horse was the catalyst for this research. He taught me the importance of relaxation and it payed off.
I still have a lot to learn but am happy to enjoy the journey and allow my horse as much time as he needs to build up his muscle strength he had only been ridden sporadically over three years, before I got him. 8 months ago He is a 15 year old Thoroughbred. Very quiet and obliging.
I just really wish more people would do this. I’m telling everyone about you in the hope they will do the same for their horses.
I do a lot of writing (scribing) for dressage and the judges are always lamenting on the basics that are missing, like the correct contact. Most people don’t know you should even have a contact when doing walk on the long rein.
As Suzi commented on they are too busy cranking in the nose, forgetting they have the other half of the horse behind them.
Thanks so much Keep up the good work.
I have a question on this video…..can you confirm that I have the concept right!! When you want to encourage the inside hind to work more actively in say the working trot and for it to step under more strongly, (rather than asking for more speed) the leg aid it alternate left and right with the heal ” plucking” below the Heave Line until you feel more power from behind, then stop asking? Is this correct?? The other point. if this is correct, the timing of the aid. Should it be when the particular hind you are aiming at, should be in the phase of it about to “leave the ground”? In practical timing in the working trot for example, is this left “heal pulse” when (assuming you are on the correct diagonal) to activate the opposite hind leg to step more strongly and further under? (this would therefore be when you are sitting in the saddle in the down phase of the rising trot). Keith
Hi Karen and Will:
Would love a discussion on how these principles apply to the western horse.
Thanks!
Shirley
I love this video on contact in the stretch. What bit do you use most in the training of your horses?
Thanks
Debbie
Hello,
I just wanted to say thank you for this info. I have looked and looked for a coach who understands these concepts to no avail. I love my horse and don’t want to be taught to crank her head in as a method to getting a correct frame, but unfortunately this is all any coach has ever offered me. It’s also mainly all I see at dressage days, so it is very hard to learn. I was actually at the point of giving up until I found this website. Problem is I live in Australia. Will you be putting out some DVD’s or doing online lessons. Please?
Hi Suzi,
We hear you and everybody else that has written to us. It is hard to answer questions about your horses without being able to see how they go, how they are ridden, how they are developed etc. We will soon have an alternative. You will be able to upload video’s to us, we do a voice over commentary and re-upload them so you can access them. Please keep checking in, we are adding new pages when we can…
YAY! Thanks guys – and so quick after I asked the question! THAT is superb “customer service”! :o)
This really helped me understand how to do the stretch correct – cannot wait to try it!
Thanks again!
Yippee I am so glad to have found these videos…can you tell me when you might have videos on using your legs like you spoke of in this video?
We just finished the video about the correct use of the leg. Come check it out!
I absolutely looooved this video!!
Dear Will and Karen
Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge in this way. The videos are
It is nice to know I’m on the right track with my training. I want my horse to be happy sound and healthy for a long time.
I have been fortunate having some wonderful teachers in the horses I have ridden, and a few great human ones too.
My goal is to be a dream rider for any horse I ride. So I have done a lot of reading and research- most importantly working on myself as a rider. I have found the classical training to be the best and the horses really appreciate it. My first horse was the catalyst for this research. He taught me the importance of relaxation and it payed off.
I still have a lot to learn but am happy to enjoy the journey and allow my horse as much time as he needs to build up his muscle strength he had only been ridden sporadically over three years, before I got him. 8 months ago He is a 15 year old Thoroughbred. Very quiet and obliging.
I just really wish more people would do this. I’m telling everyone about you in the hope they will do the same for their horses.
I do a lot of writing (scribing) for dressage and the judges are always lamenting on the basics that are missing, like the correct contact. Most people don’t know you should even have a contact when doing walk on the long rein.
As Suzi commented on they are too busy cranking in the nose, forgetting they have the other half of the horse behind them.
Thanks so much Keep up the good work.
I have a question on this video…..can you confirm that I have the concept right!! When you want to encourage the inside hind to work more actively in say the working trot and for it to step under more strongly, (rather than asking for more speed) the leg aid it alternate left and right with the heal ” plucking” below the Heave Line until you feel more power from behind, then stop asking? Is this correct?? The other point. if this is correct, the timing of the aid. Should it be when the particular hind you are aiming at, should be in the phase of it about to “leave the ground”? In practical timing in the working trot for example, is this left “heal pulse” when (assuming you are on the correct diagonal) to activate the opposite hind leg to step more strongly and further under? (this would therefore be when you are sitting in the saddle in the down phase of the rising trot). Keith
Hi Karen and Will:
Would love a discussion on how these principles apply to the western horse.
Thanks!
Shirley
I love this video on contact in the stretch. What bit do you use most in the training of your horses?
Thanks
Debbie
Loose ring French-link snaffle